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Saturday, October 13, 2007

Self hating Jews: Springtime for Coulter and Christians, winter for Jew Liberals and interracial couples

Headline: On CNBC's The Big Idea, Coulter said that "we" Christians "just want Jews to be perfected"

I wasn't going to write about Coulter, because the doings of pop-Fascists and bigots should not be of interest to intelligent folk. But Coulter's remarks are being defended by quite a few people, including self-hating Jews like Dennis Prager it seems. This phenomenon really deserves a bit of attention.

That is not all she said. She said her ideal of the United States is: "It would look like New York City during the [2004] Republican National Convention. In fact, that's what I think heaven is going to look like." And she made it clear that she wanted an America without Jews. So, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad wants a world without Zionism and without America, and Ann Coulter wants an America without Jews. Here is a bit more of the text:  

During the October 8 edition of CNBC's The Big Idea, host Donny Deutsch asked right-wing pundit Ann Coulter: "If you had your way ... and your dreams, which are genuine, came true ... what would this country look like?" Coulter responded, "It would look like New York City during the [2004] Republican National Convention. In fact, that's what I think heaven is going to look like." She described the convention as follows: "People were happy. They're Christian. They're tolerant. They defend America." Deutsch then asked, "It would be better if we were all Christian?" to which Coulter responded, "Yes." Later in the discussion, Deutsch said to her: "[Y]ou said we should throw Judaism away and we should all be Christians," and Coulter again replied, "Yes." When pressed by Deutsch regarding whether she wanted to be like "the head of Iran" and "wipe Israel off the Earth," Coulter stated: "No, we just want Jews to be perfected, as they say. ... That's what Christianity is. We believe the Old Testament, but ours is more like Federal Express. You have to obey laws."

After a commercial break, Deutsch said that "Ann said she wanted to explain her last comment," and asked her, "So you don't think that was offensive?" Coulter responded: "No. I'm sorry. It is not intended to be. I don't think you should take it that way, but that is what Christians consider themselves: perfected Jews. We believe the Old Testament. As you know from the Old Testament, God was constantly getting fed up with humans for not being able to live up to all the laws. What Christians believe -- this is just a statement of what the New Testament is -- is that that's why Christ came and died for our sins. Christians believe the Old Testament. You don't believe our testament." Coulter later said: "We consider ourselves perfected Christians. For me to say that for you to become a Christian is to become a perfected Christian is not offensive at all."

I am sure that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad could say, "We consider ourselves (Muslims)  perfected Christians. For me to say that for you to become a Muslim is to become a perfected Christian is not offensive at all." So both Coulter and Ahmadinejad dump on other religions and ethnic groups for fun and profit.

In American Thinker, Richard Baehr points out:

So to get back to medieval arguments that Judaism has been replaced by Christianity (a replacement theology), and that Christians are the perfected Jews, and that Jews need to become Christians to be perfect, and that America would be better if we were all Christians, ignores the shift in thinking on these issues among Christians in recent decades, especially among Catholics. The Pope has called Jews our "elder brothers". 

Coulter appears to either be unaware of much of modern Christian theology, or just prefers to slap down the non-Christians for  their imperfection. .  While Coulter calls for all to join her  religious ranks, evangelical Christians and Jews have become allies in support of Israel, and shown that clear theological differences between the groups can be respected, and common causes can be advanced.

And of course it offends, which is Coulter's trademark.


Baehr's concern is that Coulter's remarks will make Jews vote for the Democratic party instead of shifting to the Republicans. He needn't be concerned. There are many more anti-Semites and other sorts of bigots than Jews, and they will be all heed the call of the cross ("in hoc signo vinces" - by this sign you shall conquer") and they cannot fail to be attracted by Coulter's dumping on inter-racial couples as well.

But Coulter gets a free pass from some USA neo-conservatives. According to one account, Dennis Prager explained that Ann Coulter was really harmless and well meaning:

Prager said something very smart about this situation during his morning show today. He stated that there was nothing anti-Semitic about wishing that Jews would become Christians. We all wish that people would come around to our points of view on most everything. This is human nature. We all hold our beliefs and values to be ideal and want others to agree and validate our positions. Dennis pointed out that much of the secular Left wants everyone to abandon religion and become part of the secular Left and that no one in the media or on the Left seems to have a problem with this. The secular Left even goes to the level of demeaning and deriding religious people as intellectually inferior and less worldly. Prager mentioned as another example that, although Jews don't proselytize, most Jews want everyone to be ethical monotheists or adhere to a belief in one G-d under a common set of ethical precepts. Basically, there is nothing intrinsically wrong with feeling your views are superior and wanting other people to believe as you do as long as you aren't using violence or being coercive in some way. (Exactly what the Islamists are trying to do).

Also, Prager pointedly remarked that the Left is focusing on this as a 'virulently anti-Semitic' remark while it ignores real anti-Semitism a la Carter, Mearsheimer and Walt, Ahmadinejad, etc. and how dangerous this is for Jews. To focus on an innocuous comment, which is essentially a wish, at the current level of hysteria, minimizes and obfuscates genuine expressions of Jew hatred.


Talk about your self-hating Jews, this guy seems to take the cake. Follow Prager, and you can be the first on your block to be a "perfected Jew."

Yeah, I wish Coulter would convert to Judaism, and become an advocate of whole earth policies and legalized abortion and stem cell research, and failing that, I wish for a world without Ann Coulters too. I confess. But there is a difference.

Coulter's remarks have to be evaluated against the background of a history of nearly 2,000 years of forced conversion of Jews. They stopped feeding Christians to the lions a long time ago (more's the pity in Coulter's case, though the lions would get indigestion) and the Jews weren't part of that scene anyhow. But Jews have been "fed to the lions" quite recently in history. When someone advocates converting Jews or a country without Jews, they are not talking theory only. The Spanish, among others, achieved Coulter's dream in 1492, and in our own time, there was already a fellow who made his country Judenrein. It didn't happen so long ago. The dream country of Ann Coulter was achieved by Adolf Hitler. Berlin in 1939 was a much better model of Coulterland than New York City during the Republican convention.

The fact is folks, that they not only had Jews in New York during the Republican convention, they had "Negros" and Hispanic people and interracial couples. Absolutely awful! I guess the police kept them hidden from all those nice Christian Republicans. Berlin 1939 was much better for Coulter and the Coulterites.

Moreover, Coulter was not just wishing in the abstract. Coulter was actually actively proselytizing, as she said:

COULTER: Yes. Would you like to come to church with me, Donny?

to her Jewish host, Donny Deutsch.

And consider this bit of dialogue:

DEUTSCH: That isn't what I said, but you said I should not -- we should just throw Judaism away and we should all be Christians, then, or --


DEUTSCH: Really?

COULTER: Well, it's a lot easier. It's kind of a fast track.

DEUTSCH: Really?

COULTER: Yeah. You have to obey.

You have to obey! Got it? How could that NOT be anti-Semitic as well as fascist?? "Obey, Believe, Fight."

It is not just Jews of course: 

You walk past a mixed-race couple in New York, and it's like they have a chip on their shoulder. They're just waiting for somebody to say something, as if anybody would. And --

First they came for the Jews...

By now everybody knows that Ann Coulter is another of those morally deficient morons who make tons of money by insulting people, and she's good at it, the stupid fascist bigoted bitch. Hey this is fun! - even if I don't make much money from it.

The problem with Coulter, Richard Baehr, is not that she will prevent Jews from voting for your favorite political candidate. The problem is that she represents much of neo-conservative ideology as it really is. 

Coulter's success is not just due to the fact that she is obnoxious and evil. Obviously she is evil in the Biblical sense and in every other sense. She makes her money by insulting people for no reason. That's pretty evil in itself, not to mention the causes she advocates such as bigotry and ethnic cleansing. Obviously too, the neo-conservative "Christians" who adore her do so because she is evil. Coulter's success, however, is due in large part to the fact that she expresses what a lot of conservatives -- the Archie Bunkers of the USA---- really think. Otherwise, there is no way to explain the popularity of this hare-brained motor-mouth harridan.

Don't get me wrong, some of my best friends are neoconservatives, but I know that the Ann Coulter kind are all going to hell if there is one. Not for not keeping the laws of the Old Testament Bible (Coulter claims she does, but of course she does not - a matter of indifference to me) or believing in whatever theology she believes. They will go to hell for bigotry, advocating stealing from the poor, and trying to force their beliefs on others.

Ami Isseroff



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